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Crawdad
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« on: March 11, 2009, 07:03:47 PM »

I'm relocating to San Diego in the near future and it looks like it's a good time to be a renter.

Many of the fancy apartment complexes are running specials, such as $99 security deposit + first month's rent free. (Not at all like the first + last month's rent + security deposit I was accustomed to in NYC.)

I was looking into moving to S.D. about a year and a half ago and rents for the exact same neighbourhoods & type of housing were about 25% higher, not including the fact security deposits and paying rent in advance seem to be optional now.

The only thing that has me skittish is renting an entire house -- most people doing this are individuals and I'd hate to be enjoying my rented house and then have the sheriff nail a foreclosure notice to the front door. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 03:47:26 AM »

Some risk there, but more in renting condos and even some risk in rental buildings. But  a renter should have some lease rights,  check the CA law and be sure your lease  contract is conform.  Short purchasers and bank takeovers may appreciate having a renter in place to avoid damage.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2009, 04:35:10 PM »

Just get the landlord's name and look them up at the county recorder to see if they're an asshat.

Also look on Zillow to see when they bought it and how much they paid.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 02:04:54 AM »

As a tenant you have no rights what so ever if the property you rent goes into foreclosure.  Your lease is between you and the presumed owner of the property, if he/she is no longer the owner, the lease is ..., well, dead.  (Think of it like bankruptcy, if a company owes you money and then goes bankrupt..., guess what, you get a write off Smiley )

The only thing in CA law that protects you (marginally at best) is the eviction process law.  If you live in one location for 30 days, then you are required 30days of notice to vacate.  That's why hotels move people around that stay longish term in CA.  So, if you rent a place that winds up being rented to you by someone who is losing the property, or someone who doesn't even own the property (yes that is happening)

The answer is easy, as the other poster pointed out, just go down to the county office and lookup the documents by APN# or address for that property.  You also will get to find out if your landlord has a losers loan, and is making money renting to you.

My recommendation is to make damn sure your landlord is making at least a few hundred a month.  If he's not making money, he's not going to be taking care of the property, fixing what breaks, etc.  In general, he's going to hate you, because you are making him poorer every month.

All my properties make money every month, and I like my tenants because they are making me wealthy.  I don't mind paying licensed people to go in and fix problems that occur at my properties.

A family member of mine also has rental properties, also purchased post bust.  However, he bought them primarily in the high end parts of town, more as speculative purchases.  They lose money every month, he hates his tenants, and tries not to fix stuff, but when he does uses the cheapest possible (read unlicensed) people to do work at the house.

Who do you want to rent from?  Me, or my family member?  Find out who by checking records, make sure that you are making them wealthy and not poor.  (I know it sounds crazy, but it's really true, put yourself in their shoes)
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 02:17:40 AM »

Oh, and by the way, the Bank wants nothing to do with tenants.  The first thing they do is throw them three-sheets to the wind.  They even do this in multi-family foreclosures (which is completely stupid, the value of a vacant multi-fam building is much lower than a filled one).

Seriously Wills- If you don't know something, don't make something up.  If someone acted based on your "I'm sure the law protects you" and "Oh, the bank will want a tenant" they would have been completely screwed.  It's irresponsible.

What people need to realize is that it's not *really* banks that are foreclosing on people.  It's Banks acting as trustees for Bonds that are held by thousands of individual stakeholders.  That is why they behave so irrationally, it's not really their money.  So, they toss out tenants for no good reason, they don't have the power to lower your payment in most cases.  When you buy a foreclosure, you usually can't even negotiate the price, and you definitely can't negotiate the terms.  (Unless the sellers broker has instructions to take an offer up to X% under list, but the instructions are always "pre-canned" there is no flexibility in how it works)  Usually they often pre-program the drops in the list price.  (After 6 months, drop price 10% each month until an offer comes)
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 04:17:04 PM »

So glad there are unbiased  experts out there.  Wouldn't want to have to depend on lawyers for legal advice or bankers for workouts.  Find a landload instead
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 05:54:46 PM »

Well, the move to San Diego was successful. I ended up finding an apartment for lease from a reputable apartment management company (that also owns the building) that didn't have too much vacancy (5 different units available as far as I could tell out of a total of about 80 when I looked).

I could have saved about $400/mo leasing half of a house from an individual, but I was worried about the "won't fix things" problem -- and it turns out 3 things immediately went wrong with my apartment, and the apartment management promptly fixed each of them as they happened.

My only concern right now is that the surrounding area goes downhill -- I'm surrounded by what is nice retail right now, but I don't think it could handle more than 2 or 3 vacant storefronts. Whatever happens, I can put up with it until my 13 month lease is over.

Great time to be a renter! $99 security deposit, first months' rent "free", "free" parking spot, and I'm under a mile from work. With my rent payment I could afford at most a $200k house, which would mean some dodgy neighbourhood an hour from work, plus maintenance and repair headaches.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 02:40:26 AM »

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